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		<title>Comment on What&#8217;s the best deal for Solar Energy panels for your home? by Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 01:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Solar Power Purchase Agreements, or PPA, have historically been for large systems for commercial and municipal customers.  However, they are starting to venture into the residential sector. 

Buying the power from the panels instead of the panels itself can help with the upfront costs and lock you in to a lower per kwh cost than buying from the electric company.  However, you would not qualify for the rebates available if you bought the equipment yourself, so you would continue to pay for electricity after the equipment was paid for if you bought it outright. 

I don't know anything about these companies, but a quick search for California Solar PPA turned up:

Heliomu PPA www.heliomu.com 
 Solar City Lease www.solarcity.com 
 SunRun PPA. www.sunrunhome.com&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Solar Power Purchase Agreements, or PPA, have historically been for large systems for commercial and municipal customers.  However, they are starting to venture into the residential sector. </p>
<p>Buying the power from the panels instead of the panels itself can help with the upfront costs and lock you in to a lower per kwh cost than buying from the electric company.  However, you would not qualify for the rebates available if you bought the equipment yourself, so you would continue to pay for electricity after the equipment was paid for if you bought it outright. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know anything about these companies, but a quick search for California Solar PPA turned up:</p>
<p>Heliomu PPA <a href="http://www.heliomu.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.heliomu.com</a><br />
 Solar City Lease <a href="http://www.solarcity.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.solarcity.com</a><br />
 SunRun PPA. <a href="http://www.sunrunhome.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.sunrunhome.com</a><br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>Comment on What&#8217;s the best deal for Solar Energy panels for your home? by Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 00:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is the list of some reliable suppliers whom you can contact for free from http://www.hellotrade.com/jc-energy/ and http://www.hellotrade.com/easy4buying-technology-company/ or http://www.hellotrade.com/jiangxi-m-power-new-energy-ltd/.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the list of some reliable suppliers whom you can contact for free from <a href="http://www.hellotrade.com/jc-energy/" rel="nofollow">http://www.hellotrade.com/jc-energy/</a> and <a href="http://www.hellotrade.com/easy4buying-technology-company/" rel="nofollow">http://www.hellotrade.com/easy4buying-technology-company/</a> or <a href="http://www.hellotrade.com/jiangxi-m-power-new-energy-ltd/" rel="nofollow">http://www.hellotrade.com/jiangxi-m-power-new-energy-ltd/</a>.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>Comment on What&#8217;s the best deal for Solar Energy panels for your home? by gone</title>
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		<dc:creator>gone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 00:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you have been very mislead  by someone.
Or ?
did you listen  to a Obama speech or something  ??

EDIT ;

thanks for response via e mail.
But if you think you can save money 
by, renting solar panels , then you are a very ignorant person.
The only way that a scheme  would would work ,is if the company that is leasing the panels to you ,,have  
bribed &#34; lobbied &#34; the local or fed  politicians   to get subsidized to provide the panels.
then they get payed to install them
and guaranteed to make a profit by the gov.
for &#34;&#34; green energy&#34;&#34; 
that is why you have to pay 25 cents , while most people pay 10 cents , because you subsidizing all the profits of these Professional thieves.
Who's job is to find new ways to  get into that deep pool  of public dollars,,&#34;tax dollars&#34; .

Question for you ..

Do really think the rented solar panels  will?
1) pay for installation
2) pay for the cost to buy  the panes
3) pay the sales commission to the people that sold it to you
4) pay  the on going commission to those that over see them
5)  Add to that the higher rate on your elec bill to pay for these  people to be subsidized , so they can &#34; rent &#34; you some solar panels ?????????????

Like  I said ,,,,,,,you must be very ignorant about energy.
Or very Ignorant about  the thousands of companies that are formed to succk tit of the tax payers.
You are ignorant on both of those points.

So dont get piisssed of at me for answering your question !!!!!
Instead ,
you should ask why you are so easily led ?
Why you are so easily &#34;fooled &#34;  by the &#34; users &#34; ? 
That is those that use the gov to  use ignorant people like you.
HAHAHAAH.
And you fell for  the whole scam without even realizing it
That is why I use the word ignorant ,, because you are.
If you dont know what  &#34;ignorant &#34; means google it to find out.
because you are,&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you have been very mislead  by someone.<br />
Or ?<br />
did you listen  to a Obama speech or something  ??</p>
<p>EDIT ;</p>
<p>thanks for response via e mail.<br />
But if you think you can save money<br />
by, renting solar panels , then you are a very ignorant person.<br />
The only way that a scheme  would would work ,is if the company that is leasing the panels to you ,,have<br />
bribed &quot; lobbied &quot; the local or fed  politicians   to get subsidized to provide the panels.<br />
then they get payed to install them<br />
and guaranteed to make a profit by the gov.<br />
for &quot;&quot; green energy&quot;&quot;<br />
that is why you have to pay 25 cents , while most people pay 10 cents , because you subsidizing all the profits of these Professional thieves.<br />
Who&#8217;s job is to find new ways to  get into that deep pool  of public dollars,,&quot;tax dollars&quot; .</p>
<p>Question for you ..</p>
<p>Do really think the rented solar panels  will?<br />
1) pay for installation<br />
2) pay for the cost to buy  the panes<br />
3) pay the sales commission to the people that sold it to you<br />
4) pay  the on going commission to those that over see them<br />
5)  Add to that the higher rate on your elec bill to pay for these  people to be subsidized , so they can &quot; rent &quot; you some solar panels ?????????????</p>
<p>Like  I said ,,,,,,,you must be very ignorant about energy.<br />
Or very Ignorant about  the thousands of companies that are formed to succk tit of the tax payers.<br />
You are ignorant on both of those points.</p>
<p>So dont get piisssed of at me for answering your question !!!!!<br />
Instead ,<br />
you should ask why you are so easily led ?<br />
Why you are so easily &quot;fooled &quot;  by the &quot; users &quot; ?<br />
That is those that use the gov to  use ignorant people like you.<br />
HAHAHAAH.<br />
And you fell for  the whole scam without even realizing it<br />
That is why I use the word ignorant ,, because you are.<br />
If you dont know what  &quot;ignorant &quot; means google it to find out.<br />
because you are,<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>Comment on where to get plans to build solar panels at home? by roderick_young</title>
		<link>http://www.solarandwind4me.com/solar-panels-home/where-to-get-plans-to-build-solar-panels-at-home#comment-888</link>
		<dc:creator>roderick_young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 20:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you look around at torrent search sites, you're sure to find &#34;solar panel&#34; posted by a disgruntled customer.  The plans for sale on the internet are generally a waste of money - they only give information that one could find free on other web pages.

Remember that this is generally not a way to save money.  It's a project that you do for fun.  If you go to eBay and search for solar cells, I'm sure the vendors will have information on how to hook the cells together into panels.  After all, they want to sell to you.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you look around at torrent search sites, you&#8217;re sure to find &quot;solar panel&quot; posted by a disgruntled customer.  The plans for sale on the internet are generally a waste of money - they only give information that one could find free on other web pages.</p>
<p>Remember that this is generally not a way to save money.  It&#8217;s a project that you do for fun.  If you go to eBay and search for solar cells, I&#8217;m sure the vendors will have information on how to hook the cells together into panels.  After all, they want to sell to you.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>Comment on where to get plans to build solar panels at home? by Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 20:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want to make solar panels and get an energy rebate, this link will show you how.

http://solarpanels.infoworldhelp.com

good luck.

Chris Cordoba&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;http://solarpanels.infoworldhelp.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to make solar panels and get an energy rebate, this link will show you how.</p>
<p><a href="http://solarpanels.infoworldhelp.com" rel="nofollow">http://solarpanels.infoworldhelp.com</a></p>
<p>good luck.</p>
<p>Chris Cordoba<br /><b>References : </b><br /><a href="http://solarpanels.infoworldhelp.com" rel="nofollow">http://solarpanels.infoworldhelp.com</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on ive been thinking about  getting solar panels for my home. Is it a good idea i want  to hear from you guys who? by roderick_young</title>
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		<dc:creator>roderick_young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 23:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our house is 1800 square feet.  We have NO air conditioning, no pool, no electric heat, no electric stove except the oven.  A 3 kW grid tied system supplies substantially all of our kWh for the year, and the net cost was $12k in 2006.  It would have costed less today, because panel prices have dropped somewhat, and the cap on the federal 30% rebate was removed.  It's at http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/roderick/solar/photovoltaic.html if you are interested.

If I were you, I would go for insulation and energy conservation first, then solar hot water if you have money left, then solar electric if you still have money left.  Call a professional for a bid - they can gauge your particular energy needs, and how suitable your house is for solar.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our house is 1800 square feet.  We have NO air conditioning, no pool, no electric heat, no electric stove except the oven.  A 3 kW grid tied system supplies substantially all of our kWh for the year, and the net cost was $12k in 2006.  It would have costed less today, because panel prices have dropped somewhat, and the cap on the federal 30% rebate was removed.  It&#8217;s at <a href="http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/roderick/solar/photovoltaic.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/roderick/solar/photovoltaic.html</a> if you are interested.</p>
<p>If I were you, I would go for insulation and energy conservation first, then solar hot water if you have money left, then solar electric if you still have money left.  Call a professional for a bid - they can gauge your particular energy needs, and how suitable your house is for solar.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>Comment on ive been thinking about  getting solar panels for my home. Is it a good idea i want  to hear from you guys who? by Wind Generator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wind Generator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 23:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The costs to convert to solar or wind are all over the board depending on how ambitious and serious you are.  There are ways to do it pretty inexpensively if you are willing to put a little time and sweat into learning and doing.  I had wind generators that I built pretty much from scrap years ago and they were looking pretty pitiful and not really doing much to provide power.  I asked the question you are asking now and was pointed to the link below by someone else who had gotten the EBook and found them helpful.  You need to know if solar is the best route for you based on where you live, what your energy requirements are and other related issues before you'll truly know the cost of building and installing the panels. http://02891bx0ljjhip97yaof1cbq54.hop.clickbank.net/?tid=BLOGGER
If the link above seems too sales pitchy to you here are a few places to start that just give basic information:
http://www.findsolar.com/index.php?page=rightforme
http://www.builditsolar.com/
And when in doubt, it doesn't hurt to see if you can find solar cells and other pieces and parts for sale on ebay.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The costs to convert to solar or wind are all over the board depending on how ambitious and serious you are.  There are ways to do it pretty inexpensively if you are willing to put a little time and sweat into learning and doing.  I had wind generators that I built pretty much from scrap years ago and they were looking pretty pitiful and not really doing much to provide power.  I asked the question you are asking now and was pointed to the link below by someone else who had gotten the EBook and found them helpful.  You need to know if solar is the best route for you based on where you live, what your energy requirements are and other related issues before you&#8217;ll truly know the cost of building and installing the panels. <a href="http://02891bx0ljjhip97yaof1cbq54.hop.clickbank.net/?tid=BLOGGER" rel="nofollow">http://02891bx0ljjhip97yaof1cbq54.hop.clickbank.net/?tid=BLOGGER</a><br />
If the link above seems too sales pitchy to you here are a few places to start that just give basic information:<br />
<a href="http://www.findsolar.com/index.php?page=rightforme" rel="nofollow">http://www.findsolar.com/index.php?page=rightforme</a><br />
<a href="http://www.builditsolar.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.builditsolar.com/</a><br />
And when in doubt, it doesn&#8217;t hurt to see if you can find solar cells and other pieces and parts for sale on ebay.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>Comment on ive been thinking about  getting solar panels for my home. Is it a good idea i want  to hear from you guys who? by qreusjorj</title>
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		<dc:creator>qreusjorj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 22:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm planning on it myself.  They have solar panels that go on patio covers that look great.  Here's a few things to consider.  How much sun you get in your area?  How long you plan on staying in that home?  How much electricity you use.

Call some local companies to come out for free estimates.  There are rebate programs that you can take advantage of.  You may have additional rebates from local utility companies as well. Make sure you know your usage so you can get a system that will cover how much you use.  If your water heater is electric you should also consider solar water heater with a back up (gas/electric) system as well.

There are also passive solar heating like this (but only works when sun is on it) http://www.symliving.com/store/ListProduct.asp?idCategory=3&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m planning on it myself.  They have solar panels that go on patio covers that look great.  Here&#8217;s a few things to consider.  How much sun you get in your area?  How long you plan on staying in that home?  How much electricity you use.</p>
<p>Call some local companies to come out for free estimates.  There are rebate programs that you can take advantage of.  You may have additional rebates from local utility companies as well. Make sure you know your usage so you can get a system that will cover how much you use.  If your water heater is electric you should also consider solar water heater with a back up (gas/electric) system as well.</p>
<p>There are also passive solar heating like this (but only works when sun is on it) <a href="http://www.symliving.com/store/ListProduct.asp?idCategory=3" rel="nofollow">http://www.symliving.com/store/ListProduct.asp?idCategory=3</a><br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>Comment on ive been thinking about  getting solar panels for my home. Is it a good idea i want  to hear from you guys who? by Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 22:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes it is a good idea. i dont know where you live but in NY there is a law saying if you produce more energy than you use the electric company actually has to pay you the difference. i would strongly recommend it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes it is a good idea. i dont know where you live but in NY there is a law saying if you produce more energy than you use the electric company actually has to pay you the difference. i would strongly recommend it.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>Comment on ive been thinking about  getting solar panels for my home. Is it a good idea i want  to hear from you guys who? by AngelLoves2Love</title>
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		<dc:creator>AngelLoves2Love</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 21:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's an excellent idea! But, whether or not it would be financially sound on your pocketbook is a totally different story...it can be extremely expensive, but it would take a minute to see the payoff. Wait a little bit...once more people start doing it, the demand/price will also go down.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s an excellent idea! But, whether or not it would be financially sound on your pocketbook is a totally different story&#8230;it can be extremely expensive, but it would take a minute to see the payoff. Wait a little bit&#8230;once more people start doing it, the demand/price will also go down.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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